AU Naturel- hot Tub

Goodness gracious...I never thought that spending 15 minutes in the AN hot tub while enjoying a Red Stripe at 1:00 in the morning with not another soul around would cause such an uproar about strictly adhering to every rule and regulation at a vacation resort without any extenuating exceptions whatsoever! What was I thinking??? It's nice to know that none of you message board police EVER break any rules while you are actually there. In fact, I will bring my own whistle out to the nude beach, and next time one spouse leaves for 15 minutes to go get food or something and the other spouse stays at the AN beach, I will sound that whistle to alert security of this atrocious violation!

The truth is that none of you are Couples police. Like me, you are just guests, and I bet that most of you have participated in some level of "bending the rules" while you have been there. In fact, I've read about some of your admissions to these "bendings" in your previous posts. As such, you have every right to inform people of the rules, but you do not have the right to pass judgment as to whether another guest's "bending of the rules" is appropriate or not. That is the job of the real Couples police, and I am sure that Couples will deal with it appropriately if need be.

My 2 cents,

I think what happens after hours is not covered by the husband/wife rule and his cigar in the hottub at night is just fine. Often, the hot tub is not used at night, so no problem. If a couple arrives that wants to enforce the rules, he could politely leave. If it was my wife and I, we would have no problem allowing a single to stay. After hours, it's a personal agreement between adults. I say, go for the cigar hot tub and leave only if asked. During the daytime, this is not appropriate and the rules are followed to the T.

Of course, we have also done the non-AN hot tubs at night without clothes, so we are a couple of scofflaws. It's all good.

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Originally Posted by novastar

I have to put my two cents worth in here. First of all, after being open and serving guests for decades, Couples has put certain rules into place probably because of issues that have come up in years past. To think that only certain rules apply to you is wrong. It's not up to an individual to decide if a rule is unfair, if a rule can be broken, bent, or so on. You cannot judge if your behavior or presence is interfering with the enjoyment of others. It is very clearly stated that the AN facilities are for couples only at all times.
The rules are there to make sure every guest is treated as special as the next.
Alcohol consumption will interfere with ones judgement, and if you're a few drinks in, you may not realize that in fact, a single person on the AN side is bothering anyone. Nobody has perfect judgement, so therefore there are rules.
Also not many would actually confront another guest, and just walk away, giving up THEIR right to enjoy themselves.
If you have an issue with certain rules, take it up with management, don't take it upon yourself to determine if you should or not follow them. If a rule is unfair, I'm sure couples will deal with it appropriately.

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Well said.

It's true, Chris is a scofflaw. :)

It's also true that the rules are not enforced at night, so RESPECT is the only rule.

Remember, if you don't read the message board, and many guest surprisingly don't (according to our informal survey taken over many trip in the last 8 years) you won't know about some of these "rules" since they are not posted at the hot tub or AN beach. So keep that in mind if you try to police the area.

I think with the monitoring by Couples and Randy of the Message Board this issue should be put to rest with a simple "Use Common Sense" which in almost all situations prevails, if the bickering here continues you may just find yourself s with no where to go after dark as Couples may implement and enforce no use of pools or hot tubs after dark, just saying be careful how everyone keeps rocking the boat here.

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Originally Posted by novastar

I have to put my two cents worth in here. First of all, after being open and serving guests for decades, Couples has put certain rules into place probably because of issues that have come up in years past. To think that only certain rules apply to you is wrong. It's not up to an individual to decide if a rule is unfair, if a rule can be broken, bent, or so on. You cannot judge if your behavior or presence is interfering with the enjoyment of others. It is very clearly stated that the AN facilities are for couples only at all times.
The rules are there to make sure every guest is treated as special as the next.
Alcohol consumption will interfere with ones judgement, and if you're a few drinks in, you may not realize that in fact, a single person on the AN side is bothering anyone. Nobody has perfect judgement, so therefore there are rules.
Also not many would actually confront another guest, and just walk away, giving up THEIR right to enjoy themselves.
If you have an issue with certain rules, take it up with management, don't take it upon yourself to determine if you should or not follow them. If a rule is unfair, I'm sure couples will deal with it appropriately.

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Novastar, I would like to commend you on your succinct and persuasive reasons why breaking the rules just does not work. Especially your point that not many would actually confront another guest. I'm one of those people. I deal with enough conflict in my regular day-to-day life, so when I'm on vacation I'm looking to have a relaxing time with my SO and that does NOT include confronting other guests. I would rather just walk away than get into a situation that has the potential of becoming disruptive and upsetting. So those who think that they aren't hurting anyone by breaking the rules because nobody has confronted them about it directly - you're wrong. There is no way I would go into an A/N hot tub if there was a single person there (of either sex). I would simply walk away feeling disappointed. We should all enjoy our precious time at Couples and if someone believes that he/she cannot follow the rules that are in place, then please find a different resort where you will not be breaking the rules (i.e. being single in the A/N hot tub). May I suggest Hedo?

I can only dream we are around when jamaican junkie is being pulled from the hotub by Couples security and escorted off the premises. Should make a great Youtube!

CA girl made a great suggestion - Hedo... That's the place for singles to mingle in hot tubs, without offending any else!

Have any of you ever been cut off in traffic and get upset? Without really knowing who it is, the knee-jerk reaction is to pre-judge the person and assume he is some selfish jerk who is dissing you. But then you pull up alongside the vehicle and find out it's someone you know, so instead of giving him the death stare, you give him some good-hearted razzing and have a good laugh about it. None of you even know me, yet you use words like "perv" and "confronting", and that I should be banished to Hedo because of my selfish actions. Without knowing me, my mere presence is forcing others to "give up their right to enjoyment". That is some serious and unfair pre-judging there, my friends. "Confronting" is something you do to an adversary, not a fellow A/N guest who has come "home" to enjoy time with his S.O and meet up with old friends as well as new friends. A "perv" is someone who purposely makes people uncomfortable and doesn't care, not someone who just enjoys the A/N experience and has no desire to sit in a hot tub for hours in hopes of catching a shadowy glimpse of your nude wife in the dark of the night.

If your initial reaction to seeing a singe nude person in the hot tub is to run away to avoid a preconceived "confrontation" with a "perv", then maybe you don't really understand what Couples is about. Maybe you are too insecure with yourselves to understand that the A/N experience is about being nude, not seeing nude. Maybe you are the ones who don't really "get it".

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Originally Posted by CA_girl_in_TX

Novastar, I would like to commend you on your succinct and persuasive reasons why breaking the rules just does not work. Especially your point that not many would actually confront another guest. I'm one of those people. I deal with enough conflict in my regular day-to-day life, so when I'm on vacation I'm looking to have a relaxing time with my SO and that does NOT include confronting other guests. I would rather just walk away than get into a situation that has the potential of becoming disruptive and upsetting. So those who think that they aren't hurting anyone by breaking the rules because nobody has confronted them about it directly - you're wrong. There is no way I would go into an A/N hot tub if there was a single person there (of either sex). I would simply walk away feeling disappointed. We should all enjoy our precious time at Couples and if someone believes that he/she cannot follow the rules that are in place, then please find a different resort where you will not be breaking the rules (i.e. being single in the A/N hot tub). May I suggest Hedo?

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+ 1. Well said.

I have been lounging happily at SSB towards the end of the day (pre 5pm) and been approached by a few people hoping to gather momentum in a 'lets stay nude after 5pm' breakaway group. I am seriously not bothered about whether others stay nude or not but this is not about us nudists it is about respect for our fellow guests and their decision not to be nude. After 5 pm the 'rule' is that others can visit the beach to enjoy the sunset (it's in the name f0r goodness sake!). If others want to remain in the AN state then sure, go ahead, but trying to rope others in (as if it was a school jape!) is frankly childish and not the done thing. Respect!

In short, that is all we can ask. If someone is in the hottub at 1 am enjoying a cigar and a couple wants to enjoy the same hottub then perhaps the lonesome chap could accept that the couple might feel uncomfortable and offer to remove himself. There should be no problem with bathing alone so long as it is not affecting anyone else.

My tuppence worth.

Jamaican Junkie,

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If your initial reaction to seeing a singe nude person in the hot tub is to run away to avoid a preconceived "confrontation" with a "perv", then maybe you don't really understand what Couples is about. Maybe you are too insecure with yourselves to understand that the A/N experience is about being nude, not seeing nude. Maybe you are the ones who don't really "get it".

I don't think you are a perv by no means, and from many of your posts, you are a genuinely nice guy who loves Couples as much as we do. However, I do disagree with you whether or not it's ok to go to the AN tub at night solo. Your choice to do so certainly doesn't not make you a so called "perv", but some will pre judge a single person as such in this situation. Probably the same as a single at SSB during the day.
CSS has a certain ambiance to it that I find is because it's couples only. Back in October when we were there, a wedding party with many singles stayed at the resort, and even at breakfast, the mere presence of a single person changes that ambiance. I can certainly see that the presence of a single in the AN hot tub would also take away from that ambiance as well.
The reason we go to Couples is exactly that, it's couples only. No singles, no roving gangs of drunks whooping it up, etc. CSS is a place of romance for couples. Yes there are times when you will be apart during your stay to do your individual activities such as a massage or diving or golf, and that's fine. If you and your SO are enjoying time on SSB and one of you has an activity to do, it's ok for the other to stay behind till they get back. Going solo to enjoy the AN experience at anytime is not ok. My opinion and we can certainly agree to disagree.
At SSB, it's not just about the AN experience, it's about the AN experience WITH your SO.
The place is called COUPLES for a reason. It's not called "SINGLES".
So maybe it's not us that don't "get it".
Sometimes we are not aware how our behavior or presence in certain situations affect those around us, and unless it's pointed out to us, we will not know otherwise. No one here is judging you personally, certainly not me. It's just a difference of opinion.

Murtle, thank you...that has been my whole point from the beginning. The rule is respect and respect is the rule.

And while people may have a difference of opinion on the matter, it is a shame that someone would wish ill-will upon another. That is uncalled for.

I think you got your answer by now. You can enjoy the beautiful stars, gorgeous temps and peace in two other hot tubs on the property with a bathing suit on. By the way, I love being nude in the summer at home, out in my lounge chair sunbathing and at the beach (fortunate to have a secret spot in the area) but when it is not acceptable I wear the skimpiest suit I could find (speedo type). I put it on anytime I leave the AN Beach Area. I dont care what the other people think on the regular beach in their boxers down to their knees. Enjoy brother!

Does formatting your text with a dark font on a dark background make sense? Does arguing in support of breaking rules make sense? Does a rule becoming void at certain times of the day make sense? Does risking the inevitable ashes dropped in a communal hot tub make sense? Sorry to get all philosophical, but this is just one of those nonsense debates that was answered 30 posts ago. JJ just likes to talk and is thoroughly enjoying the attention. Lastly, what's a "tuppence"?

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Originally Posted by jamaican_junkie

Murtle, thank you...that has been my whole point from the beginning. The rule is respect and respect is the rule.

And while people may have a difference of opinion on the matter, it is a shame that someone would wish ill-will upon another. That is uncalled for.

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Just to add, I agree that wishing ill will upon another is wrong and uncalled for.

Can we please put this beaten horse to rest, I am sure whomever (Probably Randy) who monitors the posts is shaking his head by now, must we put his back against the wall and force him to post something many may not want to hear, I think at this point every one should have gotten the point by now.

Just a couple last things. First, my GF has fibromyalgia, which typically requires her to take an afternoon nap and get 9-10 hours of sleep overnight. I typically require 6 hours of sleep overnight. Every day we spend all our days and evenings together lying on the beach, having couples massages, enjoying our meals, and participating in the cat cruise and other excursions. When she is ready for bed, we go to the room together, and I tuck her in and lay there with her until she falls asleep. Then I will leave and meet up with my wonderful friends to spend time with until I am ready for bed. We will sometimes go as a group to the AN hot tub, but on occasion I have gone there by myself for one last beer under the stars before retiring. I love my girlfriend and understand what Couples is about, but we are not attached at the hip. I am one-half of a couple, not a "single guy mingling in hot tubs".

Second, I have always used this color font. My message board is on a white background. So Tim-n-Lisa, if you have a difficult time reading it, and you think that I "just like to talk and am thoroughly enjoy the attention", then why do you continue to humor me with your replies? ;)

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Originally Posted by jamaican_junkie

Goodness gracious...I never thought that spending 15 minutes in the AN hot tub while enjoying a Red Stripe at 1:00 in the morning with not another soul around would cause such an uproar about strictly adhering to every rule and regulation at a vacation resort without any extenuating exceptions whatsoever! What was I thinking??? It's nice to know that none of you message board police EVER break any rules while you are actually there. In fact, I will bring my own whistle out to the nude beach, and next time one spouse leaves for 15 minutes to go get food or something and the other spouse stays at the AN beach, I will sound that whistle to alert security of this atrocious violation!

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Well, hopefully now you DO realize that you're making your fellow guests uncomfortable, since it's been reiterated more than 10 times to you in this message board alone. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It's clearly stated in the rules. It's creepy. Stop it.

Laura

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fact, I will bring my own whistle out to the nude beach, and next time one spouse leaves for 15 minutes to go get food or something and the other spouse stays at the AN beach, I will sound that whistle to alert security of this atrocious violation!

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Me thinks you have done yourself more harm than good. Continuing to be arguementive has only brought un-needed attention to your plight, and probably will have managemt more vigilant on enforcing the hot tub rules...so, congratulations.

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Originally Posted by Tim-n-Lisa

Does formatting your text with a dark font on a dark background make sense? Does arguing in support of breaking rules make sense? Does a rule becoming void at certain times of the day make sense? Does risking the inevitable ashes dropped in a communal hot tub make sense? Sorry to get all philosophical, but this is just one of those nonsense debates that was answered 30 posts ago. JJ just likes to talk and is thoroughly enjoying the attention. Lastly, what's a "tuppence"?

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Ah, tuppence....did you ever watch Mary Poppins? Dick Van Dyke starts a song called 'let's go fly a kite' with the words...'with tuppence for paper and string, you can buy your own set of wings...'

Tuppence is an old English way of saying 'two pence' (two pennies). Before decimalisation made it more clear for those whose maths wasn't great, the english money system comprised of Pounds, Shillings and Pence. There were 12 pence in a shilling and 20 shillings in a pound. A sixpence was just that and a thruppeny bit was half a sixpence, See?! Before I was born (1960) one called a two shilling coin a 'florin'. Half a Crown was 2 shillings and sixpence and most of the UK youngsters were confused. Hoorah for decimalisation! Oh, by the way, if you want to buy a horse I believe that you still agree a price in Guineas. A Guinea is 21 shillings. Thanks for asking, it has lead me a merry dance through my confused childhood!

A little tongue in cheek, but fun nonetheless, is the way cockney rhyming slang used the term 'Thruppeny bits'. As a seasoned AN'er you can probably guess what it describes?! ;) Although with Cockney rhyming slang it is not usual to use the first of the two words...'I am off down the 'frog' to the 'rub-a-dub'. (I am off down the road (frog and toad) to the pub) 'Look at that ladies thruppenies, they're right fulsome!'

I hope that answered your query! That is all.

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Originally Posted by killafee

Well, hopefully now you DO realize that you're making your fellow guests uncomfortable, since it's been reiterated more than 10 times to you in this message board alone. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It's clearly stated in the rules. It's creepy. Stop it.

Laura

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Killafee, I began my comments on this thread with a response to the OP regarding my past experiences at CN, not to argue with other respondents. I can certainly appreciate differences of opinions, but the message board is not intended for guests to take it upon themselves to berate and police others. I have never had an issue with Couples management regarding my AN behavior in over 30 days and nights of AN experience at CN and over 50 days and nights of AN experience at Couples overall. I don't think it is appropriate to be chastised for my behavior from someone whose AN experience consists of exactly one afternoon at CN on a day pass.

I hope you enjoy your future AN experiences as much as I have.

Well said, yet again.

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Originally Posted by killafee

Well, hopefully now you DO realize that you're making your fellow guests uncomfortable, since it's been reiterated more than 10 times to you in this message board alone. Why is this so hard to comprehend? It's clearly stated in the rules. It's creepy. Stop it.

Laura

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I can't believe the amount of comments on this thread. I have been to CSS 3 times and my wife and I have been to the Hot Tub at night around 11 pm. There is nobody around. Nobody! I can’t imagine it gets busier later in the even. So why is everyone getting so worked about this? Is it because it is a violation of the rules? Well technically speaking Sunset Beach is only Au Naturel during the posted hours of 9-6 or 9-5 depending on the season. The quote below is from FAQ from this website.

Couples Sans Souci has a small bay (called Sunset Beach) dedicated to 'au naturel sunbathing'. There is a pool, Jacuzzi, bar and grill.
Sunset Beach Hours:
April – August: Au Natural Sunbathing 9-6 pm .
Sunset Beach opens to all guests at 6pm
September – March: Au Natural Sunbathing 9-5pm.
Sunset Beach opens to all guests at 5pm

My understanding is that Au Naturel beaches are off limits to single men but since it isn’t au natural after dark then does this rule apply?

I really don’t care if somebody is using the hot tub at 1:00 because like most guests I am already in bed. But I do wake up always at sunrise and my wife likes to sleep in. I often go for walks and sometimes end up at SSB. I like to drink coffee, watch the cruise ships come in and the fishermen go out. I am not pervert as there is nobody there at this early morning hour. I am not a bad husband because my wife wants to sleep in. I just like the view of ocean from this spot. I am usually gone by 7:30.

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Originally Posted by Baltofirefighter

Me thinks you have done yourself more harm than good. Continuing to be arguementive has only brought un-needed attention to your plight, and probably will have managemt more vigilant on enforcing the hot tub rules...so, congratulations.

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Baltofirefighter, you took my quote completely out of context. That was previously stated as a tongue-in-cheek example of how silly it is to follow every rule to a T.

This message board is filled with discussions about single people at weddings, people who state they like to "party", and what to wear to dinner. Heck, there's a current thread with 35 or more responses regarding how disrespectful it is to wear a hat to dinner! People come to Couples from different countries, backgrounds, and social statuses. And people will always have different ideas of what they want from their Couples vacations, so I really don't think Couples wants to police all these minor things until they become major things. For the most part, Couples lays the ground rules and then lets the the specific resort's management and security deal with the day-to-day activities.

Sorry I somehow was reading other posts and got confused. I have been to CN and CSS and I have to agree that CN hot tub single man at anytime is creepy. It used to be only a few years ago that singles were allowed at CN AN beach. We had one instance were in the middle of the day some dude sans wife just walked in and jump into the hot with my wife and I. He said his wife was napping and wasn't into AN. For people like that I understand. CSS beach is so separated from the rest of the resort I doubt anyone goes over after midnight. I wouldn't.

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Originally Posted by BillnMarg

I can't believe the amount of comments on this thread. I have been to CSS 3 times and my wife and I have been to the Hot Tub at night around 11 pm. There is nobody around. Nobody! I can’t imagine it gets busier later in the even. So why is everyone getting so worked about this? Is it because it is a violation of the rules? Well technically speaking Sunset Beach is only Au Naturel during the posted hours of 9-6 or 9-5 depending on the season. The quote below is from FAQ from this website.

Couples Sans Souci has a small bay (called Sunset Beach) dedicated to 'au naturel sunbathing'. There is a pool, Jacuzzi, bar and grill.
Sunset Beach Hours:
April – August: Au Natural Sunbathing 9-6 pm .
Sunset Beach opens to all guests at 6pm
September – March: Au Natural Sunbathing 9-5pm.
Sunset Beach opens to all guests at 5pm

My understanding is that Au Naturel beaches are off limits to single men but since it isn’t au natural after dark then does this rule apply?

I really don’t care if somebody is using the hot tub at 1:00 because like most guests I am already in bed. But I do wake up always at sunrise and my wife likes to sleep in. I often go for walks and sometimes end up at SSB. I like to drink coffee, watch the cruise ships come in and the fishermen go out. I am not pervert as there is nobody there at this early morning hour. I am not a bad husband because my wife wants to sleep in. I just like the view of ocean from this spot. I am usually gone by 7:30.

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