To all: I felt bad for my husband wearing his dress shoes and SOCKS in Jamaica for the fancy restuarants - especially when I can wear dress sandals. Looking through the Harrington catalog I think I found the answer for him and others of you out there. They have several models of boat shoes. The pair I picked for him (on back order - so I'm crossing my fingers we'll get them and they'll be perfect) are supposed to feel like wearing mocassins and one doesn't have to wear socks with them. Check out www.HerringtonCatalog.com. In the catalogue they're listed for $69.99 but on-line you can get them for $10 less, normally they're $120.