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    Default Important notice to all smokers

    Jamaica’s Health Minister, Dr. Fenton Ferguson, has announced that smoking will be banned in all covered public spaces on the island, effective July 15, 2013. The legislation already exists in Barbados as well as other Caricom nations.

    What does this mean for Couples Resorts guests? Effective Monday July 15, in Jamaica as it already is in Barbados, smoking will no longer be permitted in any covered facilities, including rooms, restaurants and bars, bathrooms, etc.

    Essentially, smoking will now only be allowed outside of covered facilities. We trust that all smokers will abide by this new legislation.

    NOTE: Balconies and Patios are excluded from this legislation. That said, we are still only agreeing that legal tobacco products (cigarettes and cigars) are acceptable on balconies.

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    No one has smoked in the restaurants or in piano bar(s) for a couple of years now. Rooms? Are you saying no one can smoke on their patio outside their own room?






    Quote Originally Posted by randymon View Post
    Jamaica’s Health Minister, Dr. Fenton Ferguson, has announced that smoking will be banned in all public spaces on the island, effective July 15, 2013. The legislation already exists in Barbados as well as other Caricom nations.

    What does this mean for Couples Resorts guests? Effective Monday July 15, in Jamaica as it already is in Barbados, smoking will no longer be permitted in any covered facilities, including rooms, restaurants and bars, bathrooms, etc.

    Essentially, smoking will now only be allowed outside of covered facilities. We trust that all smokers will abide by this new legislation.
    Dianavr

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    I know this will be asked a few times but does the patio or balcony of your room count?

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    Randymon, does this mean you can't smoke on your balcony?

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    Well, I like it. Neither of us is a smoker. My sister grew up with very severe asthma and we had to be very careful where we went so she wouldn't have an attack. I am also very irritated by smoke from cigarettes, etc. I can't stand to be anywhere near it. For a non smoker this is great! For a smoker - maybe, not so much. The difference is, a non smoker can become ill if exposed to secondhand smoke, but a smoker won't be affected at all by fresh air. In Canada, you can't smoke in any public places anymore, but we still are affected by the smoking when a smoker comes inside after a smoke break, it's all over their clothes, hair etc, we just can't get away from it!

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    so glad I stopped smoking 75 weeks ago....

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    Randymon,
    Could you tell me if V-cigs (the electronic version) are allowable still? Most countries exclude them from bans, but I think a couple forbid them. I know they were being discussed in a different thread but hadn't seen anything official. Thanks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randymon View Post
    Jamaica’s Health Minister, Dr. Fenton Ferguson, has announced that smoking will be banned in all public spaces on the island, effective July 15, 2013. The legislation already exists in Barbados as well as other Caricom nations.

    What does this mean for Couples Resorts guests? Effective Monday July 15, in Jamaica as it already is in Barbados, smoking will no longer be permitted in any covered facilities, including rooms, restaurants and bars, bathrooms, etc.

    Essentially, smoking will now only be allowed outside of covered facilities. We trust that all smokers will abide by this new legislation.
    250 views and no replies to the new Law. I am sure there are many folks who are happy about the law and many who are not. I wonder how this will effect tourism and wonder what the ratio of non-smokers to smokers is....Having never been to Couples before, is there a lot of smokers or non-smokers? I imagine in few years the law will expand to no smoking outside as well.....just a matter of time.

    I saw old post from few years ago where folks were discussing the smoking (cigs and weed) on the balcony issue....was quite heated discussion pro's and con's, etc...Folks felt they pay good money should be able to smoke on the balcony, whereas, others felt they couldn't enjoy their balcony due to the smell of smoke. Guess new law solves this issue.

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    This will upset the wife significantly. Glad we have the "cancel for any reason" trip insurance. Unsure if we'll be back.

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    Balconies still okay, right?

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    We will be there in 38 days! Now just curious where the smoking areas will be. Will there be no smoking on the balconies also? While I don't smoke my hubby does. Thank you so much for any clarification.

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    "all public spaces" - Does that include the beach?
    Ricky Ginsburg
    Boca Raton, Florida
    (just a 75 minute plane flight from paradise)


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    This should not come as a surprise or shock to US residents as half of the states in the U.S. have banned smoking in restaurants, bars, and the workplace since 2000, and federal health officials have predicted that cigarette smoking will be forbidden in all U.S. states by 2020. I live in NJ and smoking is only allowed inside restricted areas of Atlantic City Casinos. No one is saying you can't smoke. Just not indoors. Please remember that when you check out of your room in the late morning someone else is checking in a couple hours later who may not be able to deal with a room that smells like cigarette smoke. Respect...

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    So what is the policy for your balcony? Thanks for the info.

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    According to the wording of the law - any facility under cover. This includes the balconies. It does not include open spaces such as around the pools, on the beach, in the gardens, ie outdoors not under cover/roof.

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    At last, we can be sure to enjoy our balcony now without other peoples smoke drifting up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by randymon View Post
    According to the wording of the law - any facility under cover. This includes the balconies. It does not include open spaces such as around the pools, on the beach, in the gardens, ie outdoors not under cover/roof.
    I'm assuming, then, that all ashtrays will be removed from the balconies of the rooms? I'm so happy that I may finally be able to use my balcony while on vacation! All too often I couldn't use it because the occupants in the room next to ours would be smoking, and their cigarette smoke would invade our balcony area and make it impossible to be on the balcony without breathing in a lot of carcinogens. I'm assuming, too, that the staff will be informed of the new law and will be willing to enforce it?

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    Quote Originally Posted by randymon View Post
    According to the wording of the law - any facility under cover. This includes the balconies. It does not include open spaces such as around the pools, on the beach, in the gardens, ie outdoors not under cover/roof.
    Just like in the US, I can understand the smoking ban for all roof covered enclosed areas (restaurants, rooms, bathrooms, etc) because of the lack of ventilation. But the balconies/patios which are mainly open? All other hotels/resorts that we have been to don't include that. Just not in the rooms. So if that's the case along with all bars (swim up and beach bars) that just have the thatched roof... I think it's going to hurt Couples. I know it's not by their choice but still, I think there are more visitors who are smokers that won't come anymore rather than non-smokers who have stayed away because of the lack of a ban.

    I am a smoker but a very polite one. I don't mind not smoking in the room. I actually prefer non-smoking rooms. But have had the option to use a balcony/patio.

    We are already booked for CN this Fall. Guess we won't be hanging around the bars as much. And not sure if we will return after that. Again, if people were more respectful of each other, things like this wouldn't be an issue.
    Linda & Nick
    CSA - Oct 2004 (for our wedding!!!)
    CN - March 2006, Nov 2013
    CSS - March 2013

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    What about e-cigs, they do not produce smoke, just a water vapor. That is how I have been getting off regular cigs.
    Maybe not around food but on balcony, no one would smell smoke as I just said. There is no second hand smoke which I believe is spirit of this law to prevent.

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    Oh my! Not sure how this is going to affect our upcoming trip in November. I am going to have to consider this. I don't have a problem not smoking in buildings but the balcony may be a deal breaker for me. I wake up much earlier than my husband and I enjoy going out on the balcony and having coffee and smoking a cigarette or two while watching the resort wake up.

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    Hopefully when they define public places under cover this will not include your personal room balcony.After 4 great years traveling to Jamaica with couples resorts ,for the first time we have considered some where else for our yearly trip to paradise.Please let us know if they define this new law,trip number 5 scheduled for October 10 thru 18 2013 for the anniversary party,hopefully not our last.A great cigar on the balcony with a glass of rum after a great day is one of the reasons we go to Couples.

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    If the balcony has a canopy or roof, then I guess you can't smoke there. Bottom line is, you should only be smoking in wide, open spaces.

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    Personally, I don't consider my balcony or patio to be a public space. Even here in America, where they are rabid against smokers, most hotels let you smoke on the balcony or patio if you keep the door closed and don't 'contaminate' the room......

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    Wondering how "under roof" will be defined at the resorts. Pool swim-up bar is under a roof, as are all other bars, Oasis, Palms. This is fabulous news to us non-smokers! Randymon can you further define "under roof"? thanks!

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    Need to give my 2 cents on this one-I'm an ex-smoker, quit 1 1/2 years ago after having smoked for 30 years! Very difficult to do but so worth it.

    But I'm weighing in on the other side because what I do on my balcony shouldn't be policed!

    I think this will result in guests closing up their rooms and smoking inside..so in the long run the rooms will begin to stink (which they don't now since the majority of smokers go outdoors). There has got to be a happy medium-ya think?

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