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    Was watching the "Travel Network" last night and saw an episode of "Anthony Bourdain's" show covering Jamaica. Though I don't think we will be seeing much of this from the resort. It was interesting to see some of the real Jamaica.

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    I typically like Anthony Bourdain but did not like that episode at all. We have toured Jamaica pretty extensively, and although some of it is accurate, I felt it was geared toward making JA look bad. Most of the filming was done in and around Kingston. What we have encountered is very different.

    We love the island and her people! Which is one reason we keep going back.

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    Anthony refused to go to any resorts in an attempt to get a better depiction of Jamaica. Though I have always done Jamaican resorts, we have done things with the locals. For spring break 2009 we met a canadian couple at our resort. The husband was from Jamaica and invited us to spend the day with them. It was crazy fun. He lived in the mountains, took us to local shops and restuaurants, we met more people than I can remember and everyone knew him. He made sure we were safe. That is the side I know, not the cave dwelling side that no one usually does ever (don't know why he went there). Also, the times I have been to Ochie (as the locals call it?) We,like some on the couples website have walked through town and ventured into the beef patty shop, bars, shops, off the beaten path restaurants but not too far off to be in danger. I want to try the lobster shack many rave about that is nearby Margarita ville in Ochie. If you walk far enough up the main strip of Ochie, you will run into all locals and lots of them. Where they shop, eat, etc. It suddenly becomes non touristy and their town. Everytime we go to Jamaica, we visit this tiny little bar in their shopping area to have a drink and take a pic there. It is really run down so we are suprised it is always still standing. It is by their huge fruit market. Thanks for making me excited and bringing back great memories. This will be my 7th stay in Jamaica, 1st time at CTI!
    Last edited by lanellboo; October 21st, 2009 at 07:39 PM.

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    That Bourdain episode was never received well, it came out a couple of years ago and almost everyone who loves Jamaica did not care for it at all.

    If you want to see the "Real" Jamaica, rent a movie called "Life and Debt" by Stephanie Black.

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    Thank you guys for your responses.... I have not seen that episode.... I always remember that media is about sensationalism and what sells.... there is always more than what is "aired" ... so thanks for sharing your positive views.... I am a jamaican that has been living overseas for the last 20 years... I visit quite often and if i paid attention to the media i would stay away from my own country.... I am visiting CN for the first time in Nov and cant wait... very very very excited... yea!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mzambo View Post
    I typically like Anthony Bourdain but did not like that episode at all. We have toured Jamaica pretty extensively, and although some of it is accurate, I felt it was geared toward making JA look bad. Most of the filming was done in and around Kingston. What we have encountered is very different.

    We love the island and her people! Which is one reason we keep going back.
    ....I think this episode was to show "The REAL Jamaica". The question would be; what IS the real Jamaica? Sort of like seeing the real Tennessee; it all depends on where you are, and what you see. Still, the show was interesting in showing what few tourists see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lanellboo View Post
    Anthony refused to go to any resorts to in an attempt to get a better depiction of Jamaica. Though I have always done Jamaican resorts, we have done things with the locals. For spring break 2009 we met a canadian couple at our resort. The husband was from Jamaica and invited us to spend the day with them. It was crazy fun. He lived in the mountains, took us to local shops and restaurants, we met more people than I can remember and everyone knew him. He made sure we were safe. That is the side I know, not the cave dwelling side that no one usually does ever. Also, the times I have been to Oochie (as the locals call it?) We,like some on the couples website have walked through town and ventured into the beef patty shop, bars, shops, off the beaten path restaurants but not too far off to be in danger. I want to try the lobster shack many rave about that is nearby Margarita ville in Ochie. If you walk far enough up the main strip of Ochie, you will run into all locals and lots of them. Where they shop, eat, etc. It suddenly becomes non touristy and their town. Everytime we go to Jamaica, we visit this tiny little bar in their shopping area to have a drink and take a pic there. It is really run down so we are surprised it is always still standing. It is by their huge fruit market. Thanks for making me excited and bringing back great memories. This will be my 7th stay in Jamaica, 1st time act CTI!
    .....Very cool. I always tell people any time you can get a local to show you around to the places that most tourists never see, it's a good thing. Sadly, few tourist (and that will include us) ever see the REAL locations they visit. You got to see Jamaica!!

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    I thought that episode was really disappointing. It was like they tried to find and film the worst places and things, and then said "this is Jamaica". It was not an accurate depiction of a typical vacation to Jamaica.

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    I agree totally with Mzambo. It was not not a balanced view of Jamaica or even Kingston. It was only filmed in the "inner city" areas of Kingston where, to be honest, there is violence, drugs, gangs etc. Kingston also has beautiful suburbs, museums, heritage buildings, a vibrant arts community and a booming professional sector. What he did on that show would be like making a documentary on "Los Angeles", but only depicting the problems of South Central LA or similar areas. Kingston does have problem areas, but that show was very, very biased and misleading.

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    Since I ONLY watch the parts where he's eating, the scenes with the "drum can chicken" made me so hungry for jerk chicken, that I ran to the supermarket, split open a whole chicken, and jerked it extra spicy before cooking it on the grill. One of the best I've made, inspired by this little snippet of television.
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    lanellboo----

    The last time we were at CTI, a group of us went into Ochi and ate at Dave's Lobster Shack. The hotel arranged a shuttle for us. Dave took great care of us---escorted us down to margharitaville--we shopped a little and then the shuttle picked us up there and took us back to the hotel. It was a fabulous day, and Dave made sure we had full bellies---we definitely feasted!!!!

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    Folks, Anthony is an "off the beaten path" guy. He showed reality for many Jamaicans. Maybe not for tourists...

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    Anthony rarely depicts the touristy type locations. He wants to meet locals and see how they live and how they eat. I haven't seen that episode, but I imagine it's a good depiction of how many live and eat in Kingston.

    That said, I saw an episode a couple days ago where he went to Hawaii and his first eating destination was a hot dog place that had mango ketchup and pineapple toppings too.

    The problem is that so many places in this world are quite diverse in how they have been developed, underdeveloped, or untouched. Look at Indonesia, he did an episode there where he showed some natives who live in the forest, then showed some basic civilization where they made the best pig on a spit, ever. In the largest Muslim populated country on the planet, who don't eat pork. It surely didn't depict Jakarta as the six largest city in the world...

    I like Tony, but you have to take the show with a grain of salt and understand the world is large and very diverse. You can go from metropolis to shanty-town in a short walk in many places on this planet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by radio View Post
    I thought that episode was really disappointing. It was like they tried to find and film the worst places and things, and then said "this is Jamaica". It was not an accurate depiction of a typical vacation to Jamaica.
    .....Agreed. The episode would not make a tourist want to leave the resort area.

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    What he did on that show would be like making a documentary on "Los Angeles", but only depicting the problems of South Central LA or similar areas. Kingston does have problem areas, but that show was very, very biased and misleading.[/QUOTE]

    .....True. One could go to places in Memphis where you would want to be heavily armed. But most of the city is quite beautiful and safe. It's all a matter of where you go. I think this is true of any city.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jacksalliecat View Post
    lanellboo----

    The last time we were at CTI, a group of us went into Ochi and ate at Dave's Lobster Shack. The hotel arranged a shuttle for us. Dave took great care of us---escorted us down to margharitaville--we shopped a little and then the shuttle picked us up there and took us back to the hotel. It was a fabulous day, and Dave made sure we had full bellies---we definitely feasted!!!!
    .....LOBSTER!! Now you're talking!!

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    I would like to go there when we go at xmas break. I have seen some pics online and it just seems so quaint. I love places like that when I go on excursions. Thanks for the tip!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Barren View Post
    Anthony rarely depicts the touristy type locations. He wants to meet locals and see how they live and how they eat. I haven't seen that episode, but I imagine it's a good depiction of how many live and eat in Kingston.

    That said, I saw an episode a couple days ago where he went to Hawaii and his first eating destination was a hot dog place that had mango ketchup and pineapple toppings too.

    The problem is that so many places in this world are quite diverse in how they have been developed, underdeveloped, or untouched. Look at Indonesia, he did an episode there where he showed some natives who live in the forest, then showed some basic civilization where they made the best pig on a spit, ever. In the largest Muslim populated country on the planet, who don't eat pork. It surely didn't depict Jakarta as the six largest city in the world...

    I like Tony, but you have to take the show with a grain of salt and understand the world is large and very diverse. You can go from metropolis to shanty-town in a short walk in many places on this planet.
    I like Anthony Bourdain's show alot! We all watched it which says something about it's popularity. On one of his "greatest moments" shows, he said something to the effect of, "I don't know why I went climbing in that cave." I don't think the native Jamaicans would have gone in that cave! I am guilty of being a tourist. I primarily go to Jamaica for resort life...I Love it! It is my very much needed vacation. Even when I have been fortunate to hang with the locals, they know the differences. what I love about this site is not only that people enjoy and give advice on Couples, they must also, to some degree love Jamaica... Tourism is a huge part of their economy...I'm sure you already knew this...Patiently waiting for 64 more days....

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